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Yanks No Sale on Quintana

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The Yanks have recently been linked to Jose Quintana.. General consensus was to make the trade, despite the cost in prospects said to be Frazier / Torres, Mateo, and  Severino as your core trio heading to  Chicago

At the moment Cashman has turned a blind eye to  the deal, as he should. Chicago is said to  want a “Sale type package” in return for their “Co-Ace” the former Bomber and Met farm hand / fringe prospect..

Pinstriped Prospects  the keepers of the NYY prospect porn flame, want no  part of Quintana at the present asking price..

We  understand Torres / Frazier plus, is too  steep  a price for a team looking to  build a young core, but  I’m not sure Pinstriped Prospects are valuing Quintana properly by citing his 46-46 W-L record as their barometer

The numbers guys will talk about his Wins Above Replacement numbers. We respect all that, but have one serious question. If his WAR is so outstanding, why does Quintana have only a .500 record and just one winning season, 13-12 in 2016?  Some have called him an ace. I disagree.

Actually W-L’s in this era of analytics is a dinosaur stat that gets featured way at  the bottom of any GM / baseball OPs department… The fact King Felix with a 13-12 record  and Zack Greinke 16-8  have won CY Young Awards tells you lack of run support and strong pitching peripherals are key contributors to valuing starting pitching more then W-L’s

Anyway  back to  Quintana and if he indeed should bring back a Sale type haul, thanks to Point-After we were able to  snap both Sale and Quintana’s stats as a compare.. Quintana’s numbers are in the Left column and Sale to  the Right

A few translations: Sale’s IP (innings pitched is 1,110 innings) his ERA is (3.10) Sale’s K/9 is 10.1)

Also an important stat analytics department probably use over ERA is ERA+ a park  adjusted stat.. League bass is 100

Quintana at 125 was a tick  better then Sale at 120..

Sale career ERA+ 134 / Quintana 118

The top  10 ERA+ leaders in 2016



Jose Quintana

Position: Pitcher – Chicago White Sox
Height: 6′ 1″ | Weight: 215 lbs
Throws: Left | Bats: Right
DOB: January 24, 1989 (Age: 27)
Career: 5 years (2012 – Presen

Chris Sale

Position: Pitcher – Boston Red Sox
Height: 6′ 6″ | Weight: 180 lbs
Throws: Left | Bats: Left
DOB: March 30, 1989 (Age: 27)
Career: 7 years (2010 – Present)






Written by Sal

December 26, 2016 at 8:06 am

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  1. So you thought all the gidrools were drained from the swamp, think again Rumbelow is Back lol

    actually I always liked Rum, he just never had good results.. We have to take into consideration these Pinstriped Prospects dudes loved Nick Goody so they’re prospect porn addicted


    December 26, 2016 at 8:27 am

  2. Luck of the Irish Who wants Pete O’Brien back… He’s a DH with a lot of power, a strike outs………

    I don’t see trying to fit him in the 40 man, unless they can get him on a minor league deal and stash him


    December 26, 2016 at 8:32 am

  3. Wow!!!!! Paige can park her clubs under my bed ANYTIME!!! Absolutely smokin!!
    Best pic out of the 14??? A no brainier…… The one with her in short shorts leaning on her club, legs crossed showing major quad muscle & wearing mid drif baring blouse tied sarong style around her chest. A quality pic!!

    On another note…..NO WAY do I let go of Frazier & Torres at this point!
    Who knows, but these 2 could very well end up as major every day players for years to come. Possibly a major part of the new core the Yanks are trying to build.
    Thanks, but no thanks!!


    December 26, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    • lol, there you have it, from a master bird dog on Paige, who does have great form

      Frazier has a little bit of pressure on him, Yanks gave up Miller, and won’t entertain Quintana, let’s hope he’s not the next Culver, Adams, or Nunez


      December 27, 2016 at 7:23 am

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